The Conscience of Abe’s Turn freedom of speech, defense, and life

All drugs should be legal!

Fuck da police

I was extremely excited when I heard this legislation had passed. I lived in Missouri at the time and through the Marijuana Policy Project, (MPP.org) I sent in petitions to the “powers that be” in Mass. I may not live somewhere but that doesn’t stop me from doing everything in my power to help free my brothers and sisters.

Did not George HW Bush survive an airplane ejection with a hemp parachute? Oh the irony.

Hah! Finally we score a point against ignorance and fear.

Who are you to decide which drugs are “safe” and which are “harmful”?

Are you out of your mind? No one decides which drugs are harmful, it’s just the facts: Which are that weed has never killed but all (Well known, AKA Cocaine, heroin and lcd etc) have. I agree to a point so that the money from these drugs go to a better cause than gangs but it’s just not right. The government have to protect us, fair enough they will get the drug any way but may as well make it as hard as possible to obtain to at least try to put people off.

“Who are you to decide which drugs are “safe” and which are “harmful”?

Are you out of your mind? No one decides which drugs are harmful, it’s just the facts: Which are that weed has never killed but all (Well known, AKA Cocaine, heroin and lcd etc) have. I agree to a point so that the money from these drugs go to a better cause than gangs but it’s just not right. The government have to protect us, fair enough they will get the drug any way but may as well make it as hard as possible to obtain to at least try to put people off.”

I’m going to have to agree with the “All Drugs” point, but only because Every. Single. Drug. you can buy over the county right now has a higher mortality rate than cannabis. Even “regular ol’ aspirin” kills around 7600 (http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30) people per year, compared to a whopping ZERO for cannabis.

Some drugs do have a higher addiction rate or are much more harmful, but I think the decision should be on the user. One way that I see to start working on a “Compromise” with the anal-retentive prohibitionists is something along the lines of harsher penalties for drug-related or drug-influenced crimes (which should keep most cannabis users safe, since we don’t seem to go out of our heads for a fix). Also, the “penalties” should be more toward helping the user become a productive member of society, not another burden of the state (read: taxpayer, or US).

FUCK YEA Movement in the right direction!

“Are you out of your mind? No one decides which drugs are harmful, it’s just the facts: Which are that weed has never killed but all (Well known, AKA Cocaine, heroin and lcd etc) have. I agree to a point so that the money from these drugs go to a better cause than gangs but it’s just not right. The government have to protect us, fair enough they will get the drug any way but may as well make it as hard as possible to obtain to at least try to put people off.”

First off, go out and try and find much documented cases of LSD (not lcd) deaths. In fact, maybe you should do like, maybe 3 minutes of research before you start throwing facts around.

And besides your point, it’s not the government’s job to create laws to protect us from ourselves. Laws should exist to protect our rights. Our current system treats heroin and other such drugs as a legal issue instead of the public health issue it really is. There are much better ways to handle drugs than in the court room. The drug war that is being fought to prevent the use of these drugs has utterly failed, and therefore prohibition fails. We need to figure out a better scheme to handle all drugs; whether or not you agree people should be using them is irrelevant.

I moved outa mass at the wrong time. Now I want to move back because of this law, but the economy is in the tank. Oh wait you guys legalized the idiotic idea that gays could truly marry.. Maybe I’ll just move back by myself and leave my kids down South, where the pot laws are like 30 days for a roach. Un frickin real.

to all those people who say drugs should be banned based on the harm they cause, why are alcohol and cigarettes not banned? they not only cause direct physical harm, they incur an extremely large social, legal and economical cost. nicotine is as addictive, if not more addictive than, heroin and alcohol addiction can be so powerful that trying to quit cold turkey requires medical attention or it can be life-threatening. so, why should marijuana and crack and heroin be banned but not cigarettes or alcohol?

First I’d like to mention that there have been a lot of tests done showing that people who regularly smoke weed tend to be better drivers when they are driving stoned. Not out of their mind stoned but just chill stoned. Sure there are tests that say otherwise as well. I suppose you have to think about the tests and the prejudices behind those who created and ran them and decide for yourself which results are true.

In regards to whether or not all drugs should be legal, this is most likely a bad idea. Although people should have the right to do whatever they want to their bodies, they do not have the right to do whatever they want to others. Each drug causes people to interact differently with the world around them, and while one can generally be safe when just on weed, heavier drugs can make being safe a lot harder. And that’s not an opinion, it’s the way things are. If other drugs were legalised, there would probably be hordes of new laws written to regulate behavior and all sorts of other things surrounding the use of the drugs, and that’s not all that much better.

Anyway I think the real and most immediate issue is the emphasis most systems have on punishment and not rehabilitation. And that’s what should be focused on for the time being.

“To say that marijuana never killed anyone is absurd!! It’s alot like alcohol, they get killed by getting behind the wheel and getting in a car accident.”

To say that marijuana killed someone is absurd!! You couldn’t smoke enough to overdose, unlike alcohol that you can drink enough of to die relatively easily. It’s dumbasses that try to drive when they are impaired that kill people.

The “war” on drugs is a huge failure that targets our nations poor, fills our prisons with very low level criminals, and ruins a persons life with felony charges and can ruin their prospects for ever coming back from a mistake. This Nation, that has prided itself for so long on for individual freedom, sure does its level best on squeezing that right out.

As you will find from those of us that do not drink the corporate Kool-Aid, we have never run across a deranged crazy suspect high on marijuana. Meth, coke, PCP, and booze is another story. An officer that can look you in the eye and tell you they have is lying. You could argue until the cows come home about impairment, but even legal prescription drugs have caused people to be arrested for driving under the influence. If you are an idiot and going to go get behind the wheel intoxicated, or high on weed or prescription drugs, then you cross the line where you place others in danger, and therefore should be subject to arrest. But if you are sitting in your house smoking a fatty, who is the government to come in and tell you no?

There is no such thing as a gateway anything…there is such a thing as an addictive personality….look at alcohol. Some people take a drink, and work their way to where they can not go a day without it. It does not happen to everyone, just those that have some physical/mental issue with it that is best treated by counseling and medical professionals. This can also be applied to shopping, eating, and a myriad of other ills.

Believe in the live and let live philosophy. When your rights are infringed upon by someone else, then the law should be there to protect you. But if what you are doing is of no harm to anyone…you should not have to fear incarceration.

It really is time for America to wake up and focus on important things. For those of you so uptight about weed….go get yourself a joint and smoke it. Come on back and tell us if you still feel the same way.

BTW I am a retired Detective and there are a lot of us that feel this same way.

Although i completely agree and find that there is a huge difference between any cannabis product and crack or heroin this doesn’t include lsd.

I would like to see your stats that included how and when someone died from it.

There was once someone caught smuggling lsd by taping the paper strips to his body and getting on a plane. He started to sweat absorbed 1-2000 hits and now thinks that he is an orange but is not dead.

I do not condone the use but do not think that this man made hallucinogen falls in the same category as crack or coke.

The argument that “nobody should be able to tell us what we do to our bodies” is bullshit. Suicide is illegal, and thats something you do to yourself right?
Every drug should be legal? What?
You have to ask, if every heroine, crack, crystal meth…etc. were all legal, would society be better off?
I can firmly say “absolutely not”. Those drugs should never be legalized, and almost definetely never will be.

Yes, that makes total fucking sense, sir. “Suicide is illegal” Yes, and just what are they going to do to someone who commits suicide, send their dead body to jail?

Also, you just countered “illegal drugs should become legal” with “Those drugs should never be legalized”. Good facts, dipshit.

I’ve never understood the suicide law anyway. If someone is depressed enough to kill themselves, do you think they’re going to turn around and say “I can’t do that because it’s illegal”?

Also, you missed the point somewhere with “The argument that ’nobody should be able to tell us what we do to our bodies’ is bullshit. Suicide is illegal, and thats something you do to yourself right?” You have obviously confused the definition of “should” with some other word.

See, obviously they can tell us what to do with our bodies. But the point of the argument is that “nobody should be able to tell us what we do to our bodies”. y’know, because of the whole “freedom” thing.

yea its not like they can’t get the drugs anyways on any street corner in broad daylight. Yea its not like keeping it criminalized has got or deterred any bit any parent from using. So yea lets keep it criminal so we can keep the guns and gangs in their money and our streets unsafe. Cause yea lets think of the children who’s parents will get crack whether its legal or illegal, so we can keep the street corner gun toting thug in business…. yea lets think of the children who will grow up around the gun toting thug because we want to keep it illegal…. yup lets think of the children… lets think about decriminalizing it so the children don’t have to live next to the gun toting thug because their money supply from the parent of that kids will no longer be buying from them. And now we can more effectively teach that kid just like how we are waging an effective ad campaign against nicotine. And now we won’t trample our God given natural born without government born freedoms.

Why not legalize it? Obviously it’s not going away why not tax it and use the profits to fund our failing education system and maybe warn of the dangers of drugs. We also import hemp, why should we be buying things from other countries when we can grow it here ourselves. These drug laws are ridiculous.

“I agree to a point so that the money from these drugs go to a better cause than gangs but it’s just not right. The government have to protect us, fair enough they will get the drug any way but may as well make it as hard as possible to obtain to at least try to put people off.”

Did you fall and bump and your head?? How does the dribble you wrote make any sort of logical sense whatsoever? The money the gangs gain from the sell of drugs makes them FAR MORE DANGEROUS than the drugs themselves. Because the drugs are illegal, because people still want them, and because there are people willing to risk jail time and death to deliver the goods, the profit margins are OUTRAGEOUS. This is exactly what makes the trade deadly, which in turn is what creates war zones in neighborhoods endangering everyone. This is exactly the reason Mexico is on the verge of civil collapse (and where do you think the refugees are headed??). The drug cartels are protecting their trade routes, warring for more trade routes, destroying politician’s, DA’s, and police families when they fail to comply.

When was the last time a Jack Daniels truck did a drive by near a Jose Cuervo neighborhood?

When was the last time a Budweiser delivery man put a cap in the Miller delivery man for encroaching on his shelf space?

Would you rather have wars over turf, thugs with no education and no morals banking $5k/week and be willing do anything to protect that? Or would you rather have a few OD’s a year from people who are going to test their limits?

What freaking right does the government have to tell me what I can or can not do with MY body???? They could give a shit less about you until you break one of their fucking laws.

The War on Drugs has alot of Jobs tied up with it

Why not legalize pot? I’m high now so pro pot but anyways here’s why

Thousands of Legal related occupations are dependant on marijuana infractions for their livelihoods law, police etc etc….

if pot were legal potentially they would be out of jobs…

Who had big lobbying power with governments? Unions, Trades, Professions, etc… many of home are directly dependant on fighting maryjane for a living so they will always keep up the stance of negativity against weed in North America at least. Even if front line officers often turn a blind eye to is as they should, its just good business if you a police officers or lawyer etc to say weed is bad

Comin’ straight out the underground

“Legalization of crack, heroin, and all the “hard” drugs would be stupid…. but atleast all the stupid idiots taking them will die off. So yeah, go ahead, legalize all of them. Only the strong survive right?”

Interesting how in your world, everything that is legal finds its way into your body. You know, I hear they legalized bleach, guess we should all drink that now right?

Or were you talking about all the drug addicts that would suddenly die if their drug was legalized? (because we all know that legal alcohol is more dangerous and unpredictable than the bathtub moonshine of Prohibition)

In my world, people have something called “free will”. It might be a new concept to you, but it basically means that an individual is capable of making decisions for themselves.

you can’t honestly think that the legalization of all drugs is a smart decision. Yea marijuana should be legal it doesn’t harm anyone, but all drugs. Get real. How broken would this world become if cocaine and heroine amongst others were freely sold to anyone who wanted it. Thats just not smart.