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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Jacob Hornberger in a post on his blog examines &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2008-12-12.asp&quot;&gt;the increased drug prohibition in Mexico&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet, what has been the result of Mexico’s attempt to ramp up its efforts to win the war on drugs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ever-increasing violence. Ever-increasing murders. Ever-increasing torture. Ever-increasing beheadings. Ever-increasing kidnappings. Ever-increasing military and police budgets. Ever-increasing governmental powers over the citizenry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, the more ferociously they have waged the war on drugs, the worse the situation has become.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Has there ever been any better example than the War on Drugs of how futile government action is?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Penn &amp;amp; Teller: Bullshit&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, season 2, episode 5 (get it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006FO5IC/abesturn-20&quot;&gt;at Amazon&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Penn_Teller_Bullsh_t_Season_2/70019986&quot;&gt;from Netflix&lt;/a&gt;)&amp;#8212;right after the &amp;#8220;War on Drugs&amp;#8221; episode&amp;#8212;Penn and Teller take aim at government recycling. In this episode, they take a hard look at the arguments for recycling and deconstruct them, one by one. They also have another of their hilariously funny &lt;em&gt;Bullshit!&lt;/em&gt; experiments, this time to see if ordinary people would be willing to recycle things like banana peels and lightly-soiled toilet paper. (Uh&amp;#8230; How do you recycle &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;? What do you make out of it?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After showing how most government recycling actually harms the environment and wastes resources, near the end of the episode, a recycling advocate comes on-screen: &amp;#8220;Mandatory recycling is very helpful, making it the law that you have to recycle. 99.9% of the people stop at red lights, and when they know it&amp;#8217;s the law, most people recycle.&amp;#8221; To this, Penn retorts, &amp;#8220;Yeah! When you have cops with guns, people do what you say.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To borrow a line from the show: Bullshit!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;99.9% of the people stop at red lights because they don&amp;#8217;t want to get in an accident, not because they&amp;#8217;re afraid of getting caught. Want proof? Just think back to the last time some idiot ran a red light and cut you off. Did you feel sorry for him that he might get a ticket? Of did you get mad at him for being a road hazard?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last week, an 18-wheeler cut me off. Actually, it cut off the car in front of me. We had a clear green light&amp;#8212;it had been green for some time. The truck clearly had had a red light. It pulled out across our path and made a left turn. The car in front of me slammed on its brakes. I slammed on my brakes. And the first thing I thought was, &lt;em&gt;What the hell is he trying to do, kill someone?&lt;/em&gt; I was royally pissed, and with good reason.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At first, I didn&amp;#8217;t think so much whether he wanted to get a ticket, because I knew that chances were, he wouldn&amp;#8217;t get caught. That&amp;#8217;s why many drivers also don&amp;#8217;t stop at stop signs, because they don&amp;#8217;t see it as a danger. From a young age, we teach our kids to take turns, and that&amp;#8217;s all a 4-way stop is. Still, the 4-way stop continues to mystify many drivers. They don&amp;#8217;t stop; they cut off other drivers; they don&amp;#8217;t wait their turn. Why? Don&amp;#8217;t they know it&amp;#8217;s against the law? They probably do, but they also know they&amp;#8217;re not likely to get caught, and they don&amp;#8217;t think it&amp;#8217;s dangerous to take the initiative and go, even if they haven&amp;#8217;t stopped or waited their turn. People who do stop at 4-way stops probably do so primarily because they want to be polite to other drivers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that&amp;#8217;s the point: We do what we do for personal reasons, not because some law tells us to. That&amp;#8217;s why:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;People stop at stop signs (or run them).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;People stop at red lights, because &amp;#8220;red means stop&amp;#8221; is a social convention, and a driver knows that if he has red then someone else probably has green, and most drivers want to drive safely.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;People still use illegal drugs, no matter how harsh the criminal penalties are.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laws requiring people to recycle are unlikely to make anyone recycle who wasn&amp;#8217;t already recycling before.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even non-consensual crime laws&amp;#8212;laws against assault, for example&amp;#8212;can be explained in this way. Anti-assault laws only work when the victim chooses to report the assault, because the victim is one of the people in the play. The law can&amp;#8217;t give her anything she didn&amp;#8217;t have before or isn&amp;#8217;t willing to pursue on her own. All the law can do is to give her a tool that she can use to get what she wants. No law can stop assault. Only victims (and would-be victims defending themselves) can stop assault. This is also why consensual crime laws&amp;#8212;which have no specific victim&amp;#8212;are bound to fail, and fail horribly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m a big fan of Penn &amp;amp; Teller, and as a fellow libertarian, I love their political stuff. But they here have unwittingly bought into the myth. The truth is that no new law can bring you anything that you didn&amp;#8217;t have to start with. It&amp;#8217;s true of the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, and the War on Terror. And it&amp;#8217;s true of recycling, too. All these laws can possibly do is to slow progress and to increase government power at the expense of our liberties&amp;#8212;civil liberties included.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now you know why I distrust government power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-TimK&lt;/p&gt;
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