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Re: On the Yolanda Madden Case in Odessa, Texas

Anonymous — Wed, 27 May 2009 11:08:31 -0700

We now know that the arresting officer in the Confidential Informant case was in fact Officer Travland. The reason he didn’t want his participation to be revealed during the Defendant’s trial is that his arrest report on the Confidential Informant case proves that evidence reported seized at the Confidential Informant arrest (specifically a zippered pouch) ended up in the Defendants property invoice three days after her arrest.

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Hope Steffey a Woman Falsely Convicted

John — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:28:01 -0700

Heres some more info about this case, this is a Cut & Paste I have been posting:

This is the BCI report that Agent Christy S. Palmer sent to John D. Ferrero, Prosecuting Attorney Stark County Ohio.
Dated April 16, 2008 BCI Case #: SI-76-08-14-0147

This is part of page 3

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Sheriff Swanson has ALWAYS maintained that Steffey was ASKED & REFUSED to remove her cloths.
But here’s the BCI’s OWN REPORT that PROVES this is a LIE!
And then they try to explain away their first lie with another lie, about why it was done this way without asking Steffey to do it voluntarily.
They are trying to say that Steffey was resisting enough that EIGHT people couldn’t take the chance of ASKING her to remove her cloths, or EVEN TELL HER WHAT WAS GOING ON!!!
What a crock!!

I did NOT see any resisting in the video, I saw eight cops parading her to the cell, with her in cuffs.

In fact EVERY video I have seen she is in cuffs!
And the ONLY times I have seen her react to the cops is after they have assaulted her or in the process of stripping her naked.

But apparently catching the sheriff’s dept in a lie isn’t a big deal to our “independent” BCI investigator, Christy Palmer, who seems ready to accept ANY excuse the sheriff’s dept wants to use.

The report also goes on to say that they lowered Steffey in a slow controlled manner to the floor. Except that Steffey says she was thrown to the floor.
She also told her husband in a phone call that she thought the cops had broken her nose.
And she was treated by the nurse for the injury.
And in page 4 of this report Christy Palmer even states that Steffey reported that her nose was making “crunching noises”.

So I guess this is proof of a second LIE! (Or third)

And still Christy Palmer, the “independent investigator” doesn’t think twice about accepting the word of the cops over the VICTIMS in spite of proof.
BTW, Christy also references a video that she says “proves that she was lowered in a slow controlled manner to the floor”. As far as I know, THIS would have to be on the ’non-existent’ beginning of the strip video.
On May 5th when I asked about the “missing” video, I was told it would soon be released.
Now here again it looks as though it’s referenced…even though they NOW claim it does not exist.
Interesting. (I have filed a request for this video.)

This isn’t so much an investigation report as it is a smear campaign against Hope Steffey.

The cops can polish this turd as much as want, this STILL STINKS!

BTW I don’t know why they bothered to black out the names of Nurse Coren Lennon and the jail psychologist Thomas Anuszkiewicz, aren’t they PROUD of the work they do?

Re: Police Tramples Protester's Face with Horse

TimK — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:44:00 -0800

If I were to drive my car through a crowd, even if the crowd was not supposed to be there, I’d be liable for damages for injuries. And I’d probably be arrested, too, and rightly so. That’s why you’re not allowed to run down jaywalkers, even if they are too stupid to follow the traffic signals. (What about those other pedestrians who actually waited for the signal to show “Walk”? What happened to them?)

But even if the trampling was an accident, that doesn’t justify denying him medical care.

BTW, at last report, criminal charges have been dropped. And Nick Morgan (or the Hempstead 15 on his behalf) is still planning to sue.

-TimK

UPDATE: Says Nick Morgan:

There’s an investigation that’s been held up while we get the criminal cases out of the way. So I think that investigation is going to be opened up. We have a whole litany of items that the police officers were in violation of, including constitutional rights, civil rights. So if it goes to court, it will be tried by a federal jury so they’ll be able to discover evidence.

Re: Police Tramples Protester's Face with Horse

Bob Suruncle — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:08:45 -0800

As before, Not enough information is presented here to make a determination of police wrong doing. I ride my horses just about everyday (or two to five days a week) and have done so for 15 years. I can’t tell you which foot the horse is going to move next - maybe that makes me less than an expert rider - maybe not. I can tell that sometimes when I put my leg on my horse’s side and bump the reins the horse takes a step in the opposite direction than I intended.

So if that is typical - and maybe it isn’t - what happens when a police office is telling a an unruly crowd of people to move back. They refuse the order - there by becoming criminals - and someone trips under the horse’s feet? They get stepped on? Who’s fault is that? The horse? The policeman trying to control a crowd of idiots? of the idiot who refused to follow orders? Elsewhere on your site you mention that a criminal defense lawyer advises that when a cop tells you to do something - YOU DO IT.

Oh-And unruly comes from:
“un” - meaning “not” and
“rule” - meaning “control”

The point of a horse in crowd control is that the crowd is supposed to be smart enough to not mess with it - as in the “tiniest dog with a big bark” and still runs-away when an elephant stamps it’s feet. What happened to the other couple hundred people who moved away when the policeman told them too?